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Topic: The ultimate step-by-step hard drive replacement guide for the computer illiterate
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Ted Choate
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posted 08-17-2001 12:42 PM
Isn't the maximum number of Internal 2 Gig partitions 8? If you're installing 20 Gig drives, are you wasting 4 Gig?I have ver. 2.022 and would like to upgrade my OEM drive. PCProgress.com does have 15 Gig drives which is only 1 Gig shy of maximum. Also, VS owners know that they have to initialize the HD occasionally. With 20 Gig, this could take considerable time. Has anyone clocked how long this might take? These points notwithstanding, it's heartwarming to see such success take place in this forum. Congratulations to you all! Ted
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Karl
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posted 08-18-2001 07:14 PM
Ted,It took about 6 Hrs. to do a physical format and scan on my new IBM 20gig. I hope I don't have to reinitialize for a while, but if I do I'll just do it overnight. I guess there is some reason for several 2gig partitions, but it's a shame. Maybe it would slow the drive down too much if it was looking for data in 20gigs vs 2gigs? I dunno... I ain't no computer nerd. Karl
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rf9000dcy
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posted 11-21-2001 05:04 AM
Yeah, it is a very nice upgrade and I don't regret doing it. And I recommed it to anyone with a smaller hard drive.
In my case the two VS recorders were going along happily and then, say, 19 minutes into recording it would give us the dreaded message and stop recording. The red drive light on the VS was barely blinking, so if I can interpret that as being lit only during drive read/write, the HD itself was not very "busy".
I did a 6+ hour physical format with surface scan (again)while I was at work yesterday and then last night restored the backup of the gig. I'm going to mix down and see what happens with all those tracks playing, etc. I'll likely have 16 tracks going at once trying to master to 2, so this will be a chance to test it again. I guess if I can't get it to work that way I'll switch back to my original 2.1G drive and do it one partiton at a time. I don't remember getting the busy signal on that drive, but it may be selective memory and switching drives might not help anyway.
I'm not exactly new at this... I've been having "drive busy" messages since early 1999 with my original 840, then my 840EX and later my 1680 with a 2.1, a 6 and now a 20G drive. Interesting problem with the 840 series, it sometimes would take all the audio data and cram it into one second sometimes. Very weird.
I attribute all of this to the OS and poor file handling both internally and in the user interface. This does not appear to be hardware related, at least in the case of my 1680 and 20G drive.
HELLO ROLAND!!! Is this really a 8-track record, 16-track playback and 16-track to 2-track mastering machine or is it something else??!!?
I have used the recorders to their published and allowable limits and find it very disappointing when they don't work as they are supposed to.
I guess it's time to spend more time and money to make my recorder do what it should have right out of the box. I'll be working toward a SCSI drive over the next couple of months.... Live and learn.
David
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Hook
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posted 11-27-2001 12:47 PM
Steve (or anyone else),I just bought a second 880EX and want to upgrade the drive in it (I know, wrong forum  ). I printed a copy of this thread when you first posted it thinking someday it would come in handy. My original 880EX has a 4GB drive, and the second one I just got only has a 2GB drive, and it's also very noisy. Anyway, here's my question... What's the difference between notebook drives that are Ultra DMA IDE and Ultra DMA 66? I'm specifically looking at www.pcprogress.com at the notebook drive section. Also, is the cache size important with these drives? And in case Crispy is lurking in this forum (as many of us 880 folks do!), I really want to have both of my 880EX's running the same size internal drive before I look into adding external drives. Thanks... -------------------- Hook
"There are 3 kinds of people in this world: those that can count, and those that can't" Check out the VS880EX FAQs!
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Crispy
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posted 01-16-2002 06:09 PM
Thank You Steve!!!!!I just removed my old IDE and popped in my New 20 gig IBM Travelstar DJSA 220 and Initialized it and am ready to record!!! Total Time: 4:27!!!!!!!!!!!! Did I have to do a Physical Format???
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Initialized at 2 gig partitions with No Physical or Scan!! The Puppy is showing IDE: OK and 0 through 7 Partitions!! It IS a piece of cake!!! NO FEAR!!!!!! Thanx a million STEVE!!
Your instructions were dead on and simple!!! You "DA" Man!!!!  -------------------- CrispyTunes, Inc. • St. Augustine, FL
CrispyTunes.net
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Russ
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posted 01-18-2002 07:09 PM
Steve, Thanks for the class on hard drive replacement. I put mine off as long as I could. Recording live choirs next week and simply must have a larger IDE. Perfect instructions. Thanks Russ
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Stripey Joe
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posted 06-26-2002 02:37 AM
Just thought I'd throw this into the information pot. Sorry if it's been mentioned before and I missed it.Finally going for the upgrade - ordered the Toshiba MK2018GAP. When it arrived, it was the MK2018GAS (i.e. S instead of P at the end). The info on the Toshiba website looks almost identical - the only difference I could see was an extra line for the S which says "Fluid Dynamic Bearing motor drive". http://www.toshiba.com/taissdd/products/features/MK2018gap-Over.shtml http://www.toshiba.com/taissdd/products/features/MK2018gas-Over.shtml I thought the S would probably be ok but decided to ring Toshiba support to check. A guy who seemed to be very knowledgable confirmed that the S was Fluid Dynamic whilst the P was Ball. I told him what I was using it for and asked whether one would be quieter than the other. He said both were good in that respect but the S should be quieter due to this Fluid Dynamic thing. (incidentally I hadn't told him what I'd been sent so he had no reason to try and "sell" me the S). So I'm relieved I don't have to send the thing back and am now looking forward to doing the upgrade - particularly as I have suffered from a noisy hard drive till now. (He'd better be right!). SJ
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Stripey Joe
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posted 07-01-2002 01:54 AM
ok, did it at the weekend - no problems, works great. Only one moment of slight panic - when I went to put the new drive in the silver sheath in the plastic cradle back into the 1680, I could feel it wasn't sliding in as easy as it should. Sussed that this was because the new drive was slimmer than the old (Hitachi 5.1Gb) drive and although I had screwed it in to the cradle ok, I had it sitting slightly prouder (which might seem odd as it's slimmer but it was!). Anyway all I needed to do was loosen all 4 screws slightly, move the drive in the sheath so it was nicely in the middle and re-screw. Then it went in fine. Thanks Steve. SJ
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