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kaptaink
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posted 03-03-2001 10:39 AM      Profile for kaptaink   Email kaptaink   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I recently saw a magazine that listed "The Top 100 Tricks for Home Recording" or something like that. Of course, some seemed obvious and some were potentially usefull and some were N/A.

I was in the shower this morning (hey, it was the weekend again) and I wondered if the Planet had ever had a list from the brilliant people who visit like this.

My thought was it could be a brief tip, VS related, that may be of use to someone else - one that you've discovered or learned somewhere along the road of life. Perhaps it's just something someone else may not have thought of. This might be a list that would be worth printing and hanging on to to try in those spare moments. Maybe an idea would prove to save your BIG PROJECT? Anyway...

Anybody got a brief tip to share to start this thing (or maybe kill this thing )?


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tjdesmond
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posted 03-03-2001 11:20 AM      Profile for tjdesmond   Author's Homepage   Email tjdesmond   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey man! Great idea! I saw the article you were talking about also, it was in Home Recording. I'll get your idea off the ground cause it rocks!

Tip for monitoring on the VS: Over 80% of all music produced is listened to in cars. Most people will also listen on headphones or a boombox. Therefore, I don't think it makes sense to monitor on some $4000 system. To hear your music the way your fans will is simple. Run the master outs from the VS into an open input on your home stereo amp. Not only will you be better able to match your CD's sound to commercially produced stuff, but you'll save a ton of money!

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JC
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posted 03-03-2001 01:02 PM      Profile for JC   Email JC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
this Idea does Rock!! and rollllllla
TJdesmond, although I like your idea the problem is that A&R folk at your favorite record company do have nice sound systems with the latest high end monitors,
So you do want to produce somthing with high end monitors, remember what you might hear on your home stereo (which you like and are use too) sound different with top notch monitors.
I went through this, where my CD collection was played on a great sound system and open my ears to things I didn't hear on my home stereo.so you want to keep that in mind.

My little studio trick , Is that I love
to record some guitar parts to a tape machine to get that analog warm saturated sound and bounce it to my VS.(synced up-via time code) with the right adjustments it does a great job in warming up the vs.


JC


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Hano
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posted 03-03-2001 01:31 PM      Profile for Hano   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When you make use of effects:
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Always put some minor compression first in the chain of effects. This wll make the effects sound much better. A distortion gets more attitude, a chorus gets more body, a delay becomes much straighter.... This tip is mainly for the recording of guitars, but it can be applied to other intruments to.

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posted 03-04-2001 12:51 PM      Profile for LarryG   Email LarryG   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tip: In the system parameter section, set the switch to peak hold. It'll help to keep you aware of your levels and avoid an "over." Still, always remember to use your ears and critically listen for distortion after each track.

Yours was a great idea about this thread, KaptainK. Congrats! I also read the article in Home Recording, but it didn't occur to me to apply it to our species of recorders.

Thanks for suggesting it!

LarryG


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posted 03-04-2001 01:14 PM      Profile for Coffee   Email Coffee   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A few weeks ago I had just a few hours time to put the music together for the first night show of a theatre company. Not only had I to record music from a sequencer, a cd and some tunes from an old cassetteplayer;
It also had to be easy for the soundman to start and stop (it was an amateur theatre) during the show. I decided I should use the VS. I recorded all the tunes into the VS on different tracks and different virtual tracks, but all in one song, because there was no time to change songs during the show.
After this I put all tunes together in one long track (tracks 1 and 2,in stereo) and placed markers after each tune. I selected the livemix MTK preset on the mixbus and put tracks 1 and 2 in green mode. And now comes the trick I didn't know of until then :
In the system menu I selected the option 'stop all markers' or something. With this 'on' the VS stops itself on each marker.
Now the soundman only had to press PLAY, and use the main fader for volume. The VS stopped after each tune, and the following tune was ready at the very moment, as all tunes were on the same track(s). Maybe you were already familiar with this feature but I wasn't until then... You never know it comes in handy some time... Bye !
Coffee.

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posted 03-04-2001 01:56 PM      Profile for chartman   Author's Homepage   Email chartman   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know if this counts as a tip or not. But most new users I know of, at some point (only once!) get confused about "IDEx" and "drive," and reformat the whole drive thinking they're just reformating one partition. Many of us lost a pile of work that way. The manual is clear enough on this point; but the terminology used on the VS screen itself can be very confusing. Everything else you do is done to just one partition; the most destructive thing you can do, is done to the entire drive.

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posted 03-04-2001 02:27 PM      Profile for tjdesmond   Author's Homepage   Email tjdesmond   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Absolutely JC! Don't get me wrong; if I could afford a set of high-end monitors, or even some NS7's, I'd do it. Unfortunately my wife thinks eating every day is more important than a great sounding mix. Oh well...

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Rock on.
--Des


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posted 03-04-2001 02:37 PM      Profile for Steve Phillips   Author's Homepage   Email Steve Phillips   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Have any of you ever checked ot JW's VS Guide?

Check out the following URL:
http://64.176.159.83/library.htm

Steve


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posted 03-04-2001 04:13 PM      Profile for Jeff G   Author's Homepage   Email Jeff G   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
taking tj's monitor idea one step further... do your mixdown in the car. run an extension cord out to your vehicle and run the headphone output of your vs through a "dummy cassette" like you get with you portable cd player. Put it in you deck and mix your jams in the privacy of your wheels. much quicker than making mixes on cassette, listen to them in the car and go back in and re-mix. just do it all at once! just don't forget to unplug the ac before driving away.

[This message has been edited by Jeff G (edited 03-04-2001).]


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posted 03-05-2001 08:30 AM      Profile for politcat   Email politcat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
HEY COFFEE, THX!
i use my vs in church every weekend to fill missing parts of my band and worry about not stopping it at the end of a song. no more!

my tip:
when in any editing mode press SHIFT + PLAY[DISPLAY] to get a waveform.


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kaptaink
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posted 03-05-2001 09:06 PM      Profile for kaptaink   Email kaptaink   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just found this out (posted on other thread re: EQ)

To use the VS880EX EQ in 3-band mode -
you hold the shift button and press the MASTER fader/edit. Then scroll through 'til you get to the EQ page. WOW! I always wondered how you made it 3-three band when it kept coming up "not 3-band EQ".


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posted 03-06-2001 03:10 AM      Profile for The Vampire Lestat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For some reason, the amp sims work better for me when applied to previously recorded D.I.-ed tracks as opposed to tracking with them. I run my guitar into my Tube MP and then my compressor before the VS...I like to track my real amp, but this works for those 2 a.m. sessions.
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posted 03-06-2001 03:11 AM      Profile for Dr. Chan   Author's Homepage   Email Dr. Chan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Although the COSM Guitar Amp Simulators have mixed reviews, I do like the sound for demoing/late night noodling (can't afford a POD). However, sometimes you want something a little more real than the "Simulated" sound coming through the main speakers.

I have a Marshall JCM900 half-stack, that doesn't sound so great, due to the infamous preamp design of the JCM900 (diode clipping and op-amps plus tubes). The power amp section however is pretty much the same as the classic Marshalls and doesn't have any solid-state components in its signal path.

I like to plug the guitar in the VS-880 and use the amp simulators. I then take an AUX out and run it through the amp's effects return, bypassing the shitty preamp and warming up the sound. There are many sonic options available by simply adjusting the ratio of the master volumes on the VS-880 and the amp, let alone whatever patch you choose.

For those of you with tube amps with effects loops, give this a try.


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posted 03-06-2001 04:20 AM      Profile for Hano   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is a great topic.
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* You want 3 BAND Equalising available ALL the TIME ? *
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Make some Use of the EZ-Routings:

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The selection "EZ BOUNCING" will provoke that you AUTOMATICLY have that 3-Band EQ available.
After having recorded, I arm the (EZ)"USE User routing", and I start mixing. That is how I use my recorder all the time these days. (Me = a lazy bastard)

I just push the red buttons OUT and save the USER routing (under the EZ-Routings => Push parameters. (Change the numbers with the jogwheel if needed).

When I'm ready mixing I push the red buttons for channels 7&8 ON, and I Do-Da-Bounce.

I love this most recent way of working.
I hope that some of you find it usefull.

Hano

[This message has been edited by Hano (edited 03-06-2001).]


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posted 03-06-2001 11:00 AM      Profile for 3rdstorymuse   Email 3rdstorymuse   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This tip is really for newbies I guess. When you create a new song, all the status buttons are lit up. First thing to do: Turn them all off, and pull the faders all the way down. As you begin to record, you will only be working with the track(s) that are active, and it is simply much easier to see what's what if inactive tracks, and their status buttons are visibly off.

Also learn to use - and know the difference - between "pre level" and "post level" in the display. It really makes a difference when playing back and mixing.

"Play list" is a handy display too, though early on I had no idea what all those lines meant, especially in the middle of a song, where it appeared that nothing was happening. "Play list" is an odd description. It should be named "Track Data" or something like that, because it shows in a linear fashion if there is any data recorded on a track. It is useful in conjunction with the status buttons.

Let's say I pull up a song I haven't worked on in a while. I see that the track status button on tracks 1-6 are lit. But as I listen (in "post level" display), I don't see a signal in the meter for the first minute of a song on track 6. Hmmm. Is there anything on track 6? If I fast forward during the "play list" display, I can visually see that track 6 is used - only in certain spots - like a vocal harmony in a chorus. It's faster than having to listen solo to track 6 to find out if and where data may be recorded.

[This message has been edited by 3rdstorymuse (edited 03-07-2001).]


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posted 03-07-2001 01:44 PM      Profile for Gary Lamb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Guys,
This is a great topic. Let's keep it going!
Here's my 2-cent tip:
Read the Home Recording article.
Even though it's not Roland-specific there's some great info there.
GL
PS This is a great site. Thanks to all who have helped me up to now.

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posted 03-08-2001 10:17 AM      Profile for Hat Stand   Author's Homepage   Email Hat Stand   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
some interesting tips here - Steve's link to that VSGuide looks very interesting, although I'll need a few days with nothing else to do to read the 450+ whatever pages...!

Jeff and tjs' ideas on monitoring in car is really cool, but impractical for me right now...

Another spin-off from that is mixing through Walkman earphones too - I've tried it occasionally with varied results... Don't know if that's any use but there you are...

Hat Stand


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posted 03-08-2001 11:49 AM      Profile for toad_uk   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On monitoring - I've started playing a CD of screaming kids fighting each other in the background while I do my mixes cos thats how I usually listen to CDs.
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JC
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posted 03-08-2001 01:08 PM      Profile for JC   Email JC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
laughs,, that was funny!!

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posted 03-08-2001 01:11 PM      Profile for VKTIM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
GREAT IDEA!

I KNOW THIS TIP IS PROBABLY TOO SIMPLE FOR ALL THE ELITE'S OUT THERE, BUT THIS "NEWBIE" STRUGGLED IN ASSIGNING INPUTS 'TIL I MADE A STANDARD ROUTINE TO ALWAYS PUSH THE ORANGE STATUS BUTTON FOR THAT TRACK AND THEN "CLEAR" BEFORE PUSHING THE SAME ORANGE STATUS BUTTON AND THE INPUT BUTTON TO USE.
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT IS SAME INPUT/CHANNEL OR NOT.

THIS IS NOT MUCH OF A TIP, BUT IT'S ABOUT ALL I'VE LEARNED IN 4 MONTHS!

VKTIM


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Setting up a new song each time you start something is time consuming and after building up a head of creative steam, it's a real drag reseting up the mixer (like the sped up video in the turbo start video...that cracks me up! "Now set up the mixer..." as the roland rep's hand fly at 10X speed over the controls making no less than 20 adjustments..)

So, what I do is get it set up, and I just go to the end of the song, and put a tap there.
If I want to just burn one song, I copy that part to a new song. That way i can just keep going till I run out of disk space on the partition.


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posted 03-09-2001 11:43 AM      Profile for Mog   Email Mog   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
An Inspired thread topic Kaptain....if I may add a couple:
1) The dynamic effects like compression & delay, etc should always be INSERT and not POST....otherwise the dreaded 'tubey' sound is your result.
Having said that I still sometimes use POST on Comp A66 - particularly in some parts of a drum kit - and the result seems a positve enhancement

2) A great tip - and not of my origin - is the idea to use a short length of black (well looks techy)pipe insulation over a snare or high-hat mike to reduce the ammount of bleed from other parts of the kit. You have to 'bury' the mike head about 2" inside the pipe but it really does cut down some of the HF bleed

Hope you get to the magic 100....now that 100th tip has got to be reeeeeally special !

Nice one !...cheers
Moggy


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posted 03-09-2001 12:31 PM      Profile for jnorman   Email jnorman   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
the best thing i ever learned about on the VS was EZ routing. i struggled for quite a while trying to understand the arcane nature of setting up complicated routings for mixdown with effects,having to do it using a long detailed set of instructions - it was just too confusing for a dumb-bunny like me, and so totally different than the way i was taught to think using analog gear. then one day, i discovered EZ routing templates - AHA! i never had to think about, or worry about, complex mixdown and effects routings ever again - it was as simple as pie. i quickly created a few user-routings specific to my common needs, and whenevr i bounced, mixed, or mastered, i just called up one of my preset routings, with effects, tweaked it bit as needed, and off it went - it saved me so much grief and time.

the second thing that always bothered me was the immense amount of time required to convert and burn an audio CD using the CD-RII - what a pain! i finally broke down and spent just over $400 to buy a new tascam cd-rw700 stand alone CD burner, and now i mixdown in realtime to it - holy mackeral, it is a million times faster and easier. i still use the CD-RII to do data backups on.


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posted 03-09-2001 12:42 PM      Profile for Wish   Author's Homepage   Email Wish   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's one from LarryLurex (aka Josh B) that I saved:

Assigning a track to itself:

Yep, if the button is flashing red and green you have assigned the track to itself.

First, here's HOW a track is assigned to itself.

With the fader/input button green, and the track's status button orange, you hold down the track status and press the same channel's select button. The status button will then flash red and green and another track will be disarmed.

Now, here's how to fix it:

With the track status green, and the fader/edit green, press the track's status button and when it's select button flashes, press it. This will unroute the track from itself.

Now, here's how to route an INPUT to a track.

With the appropriate track status button orange, and the fader/edit also orange, hold down the track status button, and select your input with one of the select buttons. There you go!

You see, it's the whole fader/edit button that will determine whether you assign a TRACK to a track, or an INPUT to a track. When that button is orange, you will be assigning an input, when it's green, you will be assigning a track.

Now, having said all this, you can use the assigning-tracks-to-themselves thing to your benefit. Ever wanted to double a track EASILY without having to use up 3 track just to do that (1 original track, 1 for the double, and 1 to bounce them to)? Well, just assign a track to itself and you can layer on as many parts to that same track as you'd like! And if you goof up one of the layers, just UNDO it!

I use this trick all the time! It's great for layering on thick vocal harmonies and things when you're short on track space.


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kaptaink
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posted 03-13-2001 04:40 PM      Profile for kaptaink   Email kaptaink   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We got to 24 posts... good tips! Thought I'd bump this back up for one last round.

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Wish
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posted 03-13-2001 11:28 PM      Profile for Wish   Author's Homepage   Email Wish   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's some more good stuff I saved (from FTF and someone else I can't identify),

VARIPITCH

Rate = Key = Semitone
49.67 = B = +2
46.72 = A# = +1
44.10 = A = 0
41.59 = G# = -1
39.41 = G = -2
37.00 = F# = -3
34.93 = F = -4
32.97 = E = -5
31.33 = D# = -6
29.58 = D = -7
27.84 = C# = -8
26.31 = C = -9
24.78 = B = -10
23.47 = A# = -11
22.05 = A = -12


. i'm an okay guitar and keyboard player, but recording at halfspeed ,returning to 44.1..i'm Steve Morse and Keith Emerson ! (i know...cheater !) of course , speeding up the pitch when recording a vocal helps you to
hit those Barry White-range bass notes..slowing down while recording provides instant soprano and is much less painful than
castration. Thanx for the table !

Good stuff FTF! Thanx mon! I use the Vari-Speed constantly for
doubling rhythm guitars and layering harmony vocals. You can easily turn a 3-piece harmony into a 9-piece choir by recording 3
different Vari-Speed takes of each harmony.

In case you have trouble understanding what I mean here's an example:
Record the first harmony at 44.1k (A), then set the Vari-Speed to 39.41k (G) and record the same harmony line again.

Next, set the Vari-Speed to 49.67k (B) and record the harmony line one more time. Return to 44.1k and adjust the levels and listen to the result.

Do the same for the second and third harmonies and there's your 9-piece harmony section.

No, bouncing doesn't do it. You have to record it 3 seperate times,
each time at a different Vari-speed. This is easy to do and you don't have to use up 3 tracks for each harmony because you can
bounce the track in place while recording and mixing in the 2nd and 3rd layers of the harmony* (See tip above).

*Note, not the 3 harmony lines, but the 3 layers of each harmony line!

It takes some practice to get in sync with the original vocal but once you've done it a few times it gets easier. Like anything else,
practice makes perfect.


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posted 03-16-2001 08:49 AM      Profile for Mog   Email Mog   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just keeping this near the top....its's got to make 100 or it'll suggest the machine is perfect and doesn't need any tips....and that aint right !!!

cheers
Moggy


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One of the most important tips is to frequently store the tracks you've just recorded. It helps alot when something goes haywire (eventually it will happen) and you have to either restart your machine or reload your song. A simple "shift + zero" after each progression can save lots of headaches.

SWG


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posted 03-16-2001 06:40 PM      Profile for freakazoidalnumbskull   Author's Homepage   Email freakazoidalnumbskull   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is a great post,let's keep it going.....

Here's mine.

I use Automix alot in realtime. I noticed after doing a mix and then going back to the top of the song,the mix wasn't right. Finally,(here's the tip) I figured out that I needed to take a "snapshot" of the beginning mix before going on in realtime. This resets the mix to where it was when you started the song,once you go back to it. Do you follow?
If you go back to the beginning without the "snapshot" the mix will remain as it was at the end of the song. This might be why some of you have trouble with "realtime" automix. That's what was happening with me.
Hope I helped someone. Automix could be the best feature of this machine.


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posted 03-20-2001 05:14 AM      Profile for christo4   Email christo4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
if your having problems getting good level to tape(disk) turn the gain right off and use a pre amp . you will not only get more signal but your signal will be a whole lot clearer. the vs pre amps aint no mackies.even the berringer ultragain is better than the vs pres.i hope roland are reading this cause if they dont improve some of these glitches this punters next purchase will have YAMAHA or AKAI written all over it.IT'S SURVIVAL OF THE CLEANEST!
christo4

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posted 03-20-2001 07:12 AM      Profile for **xray-Y2K**   Author's Homepage   Email **xray-Y2K**   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A lot of great tips by everyone! Here's an alternative to Zoddman's most excellent idea on keeping settings consistant from song to song:

Once you have everything set up the way you want in your first song, instead of creating a new song, just do a Song Copy to the same partition as the first song. If you know you'll be recording, say, 10 songs for a project just copy the song until you have 10 of them, all with the exact same settings in them. All you have to do is give them different names.

One more important tip before I go: When you record something you want to keep hit Shift/Store to save it. You never know when the power will flicker, and believe me, it only takes a flicker to lose a once-in-a-lifetime perfect take!


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kaptaink
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posted 03-20-2001 12:12 PM      Profile for kaptaink   Email kaptaink   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm cutting and pasting this from MOG's thread. Hope he doesn't mind me giving him the glory for his research!

Here is a great tip that Roland have now come back to me with (excuse the syntax)

To INSERT globally (that means select ALL your tracks & Vs) what you do is:-

- TRACK ,
- select INSERT from the list
- turn the twiddley wheel until you get *-*

that apparently selects everything.


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posted 03-20-2001 09:36 PM      Profile for Eddie   Email Eddie   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been reading this board for a long time now and it is absolutly the best!
My tips are, (maybe newbies,maybe oldbies)
1.)Keep your habits in check during recording. Mixing may be another story!
2.)Give it everything you've got in you, every time! It just keeps getting better.
3.)Never except defeat, If you get pissed off,walk away for a minute, but come back and figure out what went wrong.
4.)Pat yourself on the back for what you have just done!

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posted 03-21-2001 09:45 AM      Profile for Mog   Email Mog   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Inserting some extra time into your song or at the begining is OK if you only have 8 tracks in use. If you've got something like 45 V tracks armed then, as I've just found out, trying to shift that lot individually - for a new intro - is mega tedious and takes eons of time.

Enter GLOBAL INSERT !!!!(captures all the tracks )....Kaptaink kindly put in this thread but may I just clarify it as Roland's instructions were correct but left out quite a bit. Here goes.....

- from TRACK menu select INSERT

- display will show ?-? ?-? so push, say,
track 1 button.........display changes to
1-1 ?-?

- spin the wheel of fortune 'till its last
position where the display shows *-*
(means all)...press YES

- at this point, the display flashes all the
tracks and V tracks

- push PARAMETER > and display now says TRK
TO....this is confusing because it really
means 'where' ie; where do you want the
insert to start from

-use a LOC button or the wheel to put in
your desired start point

-press PARAMETER > again...it now says TRK
LEN...meaning LENgth or how long do you
want the insert

- use a LOC button or the wheel to put in
the time where the insert will end

- press PARAMETER again....press YES...and Pooofffff !!...its done...all those 64 tracks have been 'moved'

Unfortunately, I can't get this global *-* to work in the MOVE command...ah well...

Hope this works for you guys

cheers
Moggy

[This message has been edited by Mog (edited 03-21-2001).]


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